Karan Thapar: If you are talking about incompetence then the level of incompetence is almost astonishing, because it now emerges that the CIA had a safe house in the area which they had occupied for at least five months – they were taking photographs and they were closely monitoring and intercepting conversations – so clearly if it’s incompetence it’s an astonishing level of incompetence.

Pervez Musharraf: Well as big as maybe Mumbai, as big as 9/11, it is incompetence, yes.

Let me go one step further and make things easier for Mr. Musharraf: You Indians who allege that Pakistan ought to be declared a terrorist state because Osama bin Laden had a support network in Pakistan, remember that Kasab had a similar support network in India for 26/11. Yet you don’t call India a terrorist state now, do you?